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FREQUENTLY
ASKED QUESTIONS
(and Things Some
Breeders Don't Want You To Know)
Q. What is Hip Dysplasia (HD)?
A. In layman’s terms Hip Dysplasia is a
looseness of the hips that results in mobility problems.
Q. What causes Hip Dysplasia?
A. It depends on whom you want to listen
too. The people who want to sell you testing kits will say
that its all genetic but the severity
can be effected by the environment. Those who want
to sell you food may blame it all on the
diet. The truth probably ranges from both extremes with a bell curve in
the middle
where the dog’s genetics and his
environment both play a role.
Q. Can Hip Dysplasia be prevented?
A. There is evidence that diet can
prevent the manifestation of the condition.
http://www.drianbillinghurst.com.
There are efforts being made to deal
with inherited aspects of the disease but where they have been
stridently implemented
in Europe the success rate was not very
high and most likely not cost effective.
http://www.petsurgery.
com/caninehipdysplasia.html.
Moreover, not only has breeding against
Hip Dysplasia been mostly unsuccessful, the reduction of gene pool
caused by
such breeding selections may actually
make things worse and also lead to other genetic problems. For an
in-depth analysis,
please read the following Academic
Dissertation.
Q. Will getting a puppy from a Sire and
Dam with an approved OFA (Orthopedic Foundation for Animals) hip rating
protect my puppy from a risk of getting Hip Dysplasia ?
A. Absolutely not, it may actually do
the opposite and result in a pup with bad hips. An acceptable OFA
rating of the
parents, the grandparents, the
great-grandparents, the great-great-grandparents and to infinity, BY
THEMSELVES, is almost
worthless. What is important is the
status of the siblings of the pup and the siblings of all these
ancestors. The following
is a quote from the OFA website. “For
example; a dog with fair hips but with a strong hip background and over
75% of its
brothers and sisters being normal is a
good breeding prospect. A dog with excellent hips, but with a weak
family background
and less than 75% of its brothers and
sisters being normal is a poor breeding prospect”. In other words, it
possible to have
an excellent rated dog that should NOT
be used for breeding and at the same time have a dog with poor rated
hips be a good
choice for a breeder. From that
statement alone it should be obvious the rating, by itself, is of no
use to a potential
puppy buyer. In the same vein, a rating
is also useless to the breeder unless they implement the entire
protocol.
Q. How are OFA rating supposed to be used?
A. To properly use the OFA ratings, the
breeder must know the OFA ratings for the Sire and Dam, for ALL of the
siblings
of both the Sire and Dam, for All four
Grandparents, and ALL of the Grandparents' siblings, for ALL eight
Great-grandparents
and for ALL of the Great-grandparents'
siblings. These OFA ratings must then be placed in a "vertical
pedigree" and
calculated to determine whether or not a
dog should be bred. Assuming that each animal is only bred once and
each litter has
10 pups, that is a minimum of 140 dogs
with OFA ratings that the breeder must have recorded. What is important
is that the
mass quantity of dogs in that list be
free of Hip Dysplasia. Since Hip Dysplasia has both an nutritional and
complex genetic
components, it is very possible to have
a dog with excellent hips whose entire genetic makeup is composed of
dogs with
horrible hips(and such a dog will throw
pups with bad hips). Its for that reason that any individual dog’s OFA
rating is a
worthless predictor of Hip Dysplasia and
it is also the reason why it takes so much information to attempt to
make the OFA
protocol work. In fact, it requires such
a large amount information to do the ratings properly that I doubt if
ANY
show breeder has successfully
implemented the protocol. If you desire more information check out the
following document
on the OFA website BREEDERS GUIDE TO
DATA. CLICK
Q. If the OFA rating of any individual
dog is worthless, why do breeders and breed clubs push the ratings?
A. The obvious answer is that the road
to hell is paved with good intentions; it’s the same path that destroys
a breed
by focusing on form over function.
Unfortunately, very few breeders have any sort of scientific training
and just don’t
understand what is required to implement
the OFA protocols.. Those few that do understand the science involved
know
they don’t have enough dogs or
historical data to make the system work. However, what most breed clubs
and breeders do
understand is fashion and political
correctness, and they want to be seen as attempting to address the
"problem"
(the fact that Hip Dysplasia is not an
issue in the Ridgeback population as a whole is beside the point).
Unfortunately,
improperly selecting against one genetic
component unnecessarily jeopardizes the gene pools diversity. It is
just another
shameful example of how selecting for
"looks" and "appearances" can destroy a breed. Moreover, for the truly
Evil breeders,
they can find the one dog in a lineage
of unbreedable dogs that has an excellent OFA hip rating and breed it.
By doing so,
they hide their lineages’ genetic flaws
long enough to make a sale to an unwitting and uninformed customer.
Eventually the
offspring comes down with Hip Dysplasia,
and by that time the customer is stuck with a sick dog. These very same
breeders
will then require you to return or
destroy that pet to get any “warranty” relief, knowing full well that
any loving owner
would never do such a thing. And while
this may be bad enough for any individual owner, should the dog be
unfortunate
enough to be a confirmation champion,
these bad genes will be spread widely in the breed.
Q. How can I protect my self from
ignorant or unscrupulous breeders using the OFA ratings to make poor
breedings
or even scamming me?
A. Fortunately if you have read all of
this FAQ you know what questions to ask. If the breeder claims to use
the OFA
protocol, ask to see the “vertical
pedigrees” and have them explain how the OFA protocol works. If they
don’t know what
you’re talking about and can’t provide
you with the data and answers, then you can be sure they are either
ignorant or
trying to con you. In either case be
very wary. The thing to really watch out for is a breeder who
understands the system,
uses the ratings on a few dogs, but does
not implement the system. In such a case, the only legitimate reason to
do an OFA
screening on a dog is as a medical
diagnostic tool to confirm a suspected case of Hip Dysplasia. Otherwise
you should
suspect that they are just doing it to
fool the customer into a false sense of security, or in the worst case
they are
purposefully misusing the OFA ratings to
hide bad lineages and con the customer.
Q. Is there any way I can test my
potential puppy directly for hip problems?
A. Yes, there is the PennHIP method that
can be used on pups as young as 16 weeks of age. Using this method will
at a
minimum give you some direct risk
assessment of your potential puppy’s susceptibility to getting Hip
Dysplasia.
Pennhip
Q. What are the good lineages and what
ones and who should I avoid?
A. To answer that question would require
good record keeping and access to the entire medical data base of the
breed to
be made public. Despite breeders
claiming they only want what’s best for the breed, such a list will not
happen for the
obvious reasons.
Q. So how can I find a good breeder?
A. It depends what you are looking for
in a dog. If you want purely an animal for the dog shows, then you
should find a
breeder with a good record of wins and
be prepared to find a dog that is marginal in other respects. If you
plan to go on a
black powder hunt for lions and need a
Ridgeback pack that’s up to the task you probably will want to stay far
away from any
show dogs or show dog breeders. Just
imagine risking your life on the IDITAROD with Siberian huskies bred as
a top show dogs!!
Q. What are some signs of a bad breeder?
A. Read the sales contract; A truly evil
breeder will require you to destroy a pet you have bonded with in
order to receive a replacement. Such
actions are not in the best interest of the dog or the customer, they
are purely to
save the breeder money. DO NOT buy from
anyone with such requirements in their sales contract, it is pure evil.
In fact,
any breeder who has a contract that
looks like the Spanish Inquisition could have written it is a sure sign
of trouble.
Breeders compensate for their dog’s or
line’s short comings by over compensating in the pet contract. They
believe the more
unenforceable clauses and codicils a
contract has the better you will think of them and the better they look
to their fellow
breeders. Study the demeanor of the
breeder, it will show in their dogs. Avoid anyone who is defensive or
even offensive
about answering your questions. Be
careful of breeders who don’t use veterinarians.
Q. What should I look for in a breeder?
A. First look at the dogs interaction
with the breeder, are they latchkey pups? Do the dogs love the breeder?
Do the
dogs come when the breeder calls. Do the
pups and dogs look and smell healthy. Look for a breeder that is
breeding dogs for
more than just for the look
(conformation) in the show ring. Does the breeder understand what
breeding for "prey drive" is,
do they include it as part of their
breeding program. Does the breeder participate in some sport activity
with their dogs
and does that activity make its way into
the breeding selection? Look for friendly breeders with friendly
puppies. Take note
of the Sire and Dam, at least one of
them should be very watchful of your presence and they should be
communicating that
"watchfulness" to the Breeder. Look for
breeders with simple, easy to understand sales contracts that don't
read as if it
were made up by a third world dictator.
Q. Should I buy from a Pet Store?
A. Again another ripe political
question, the definitive answer is- It depends. The primary issue with
buying from
a pet store is that you have really no
clue on what the environment the pup was raised in; you can’t inspect
the parents;
you can’t evaluate the breeder; and you
generally don’t know where the dog has been since it left the breeder.
Those are
very serious issues, but they are also
the same kind of issues you may run into when buying a puppy from a
"show" breeder
over the Internet.
Q. Are those really the only issues with
buying from a pet store?
A. Yes. All the other arguments against
buying from pet stores pretty much just amount to one set of breeders
bad
mouthing another set breeders. It works
like this, “show” breeders bad mouth, non-show breeders first.
Show breeders badmouth other show
breeders second.
Q. I heard Pet store dogs are from USDA
breeders, what is a USDA breeder?
A. The USDA stands for the United States
Department of Agriculture. A person must be licensed with the USDA if
they
have at least 3 breeding females and
have sold at least one animal to another individual that wishes to
resell that animal.
A USDA breeder is inspected on a regular
basis to make sure they are maintaining certain living conditions for
the animals..
Q. Aren’t USDA breeders breeding inferior
animals for sale at pet stores?
A. It depends on what you mean by
“inferior” If you mean a dog that is not healthy and robust then the
answer is most
likely NO. If you mean a dog that won’t
win a show championship or won't "hunt", then probably YES. A USDA
breeder is like
any breeder of livestock. If they wish
to be successful, they have to breed and maintain healthy livestock. So
from a health
perspective a good USDA breeder may be a
better bet than a good Show breeder. The primary issue for a show
breeder is
conformation (how well the dog fits the
breed standard) health issues are secondary. In other words, it is
possible for Show
breeders to have top show dogs with
health problems and still make money (stay in business). On the other
hand, the financial
costs of having unhealthy livestock
(dogs) will quickly drive a USDA breeder out of business.
Q. So, you are a USDA breeder aren’t you?
A. No, we are not USDA breeders and we
don’t sell to pet stores either.
Q. With all these different types of
breeders and issues how can I avoid getting an inferior animal?
A. The most important thing to realize
is that words like, SHOW, or USDA breeders are really no guarantee of
anything.
Good and Horrible living conditions
exist in both worlds. The best way is to avoid an inferior animal is
know what you
personally are looking for in an animal
and try to inspect /verify the living conditions in which that animal
was raised.
Also don’t forget the Better Business
Bureau, they may have information on your chosen breeder.
Q. Is it not best for the breed to just
breed for conformation (show standard)?.
A. Far from it, breeding for
conformation is destroying many dog breeds, especially working and/or
hunting dogs. .
Breeding a hunting dog without
considering prey drive will destroy the essence of the breed. If you
would like to read a
scientific analysis of how "Barbie Doll
show breeding" has damaged working breeds and caused genetic problems
in both show
and working dogs read the following
Academic Dissertation .
Q. Have any breeds actually been ruined
by conformation/show breeding ?.
A. You don’t have to look far to see
what conformation breeding has done to other breeds. The German Shepard
has pretty
much been destroyed by American show
breeding ( see http://www.leerburg.com. ). Or in the case of the Border
Collie, here is a direct quote from the American Border Collie
Association- “The ABCA is a working stockdog registry and believes that
breeding for conformation standards
rather than working ability is detrimental to the health and working
ability of the
Border Collie. Consequently dogs or
bitches which have been named a "Conformation Champion" by a
conformation registry are
not eligible for ABCA registration, even
if they otherwise meet the requirements of for registration. The ABCA
will
de-register any ABCA registered dog or
bitch should it be named a "Conformation Champion" after January 1,
2004, and will not
register the offspring of any dog or
bitch named a "Conformation Champion" after that date”-. Still not
convinced, just ask
yourself this – Would I be willing to
risk my life on the Iditarod sled race with a show champion AKC
Siberian Husky instead
of one bred from working dog lines? One
need look no further than the puppy contracts many breeders want
customers to sign
to see the evidence. Unfortunately, the
end result of breeding dogs for their “looks” is not only a dog that
can not work,
it is a dog that has all the emotional
and physical problems of all those other dog breeds out there that you
are NOT
considering for a pet in your home.
Q. Ok now I know all that but I still
found a puppy at a pet store that I really really want,
what can I do to protect my self?
A. Well first compare the pet store
price with those you find from other breeders. The price difference
alone may steer
you away from the pet store. Get the
breeder info from the registration papers and see what you can dig up
on the internet
about the breeder. Find out how old the
dog is and how long it is has been at the store. The younger the pup
was when it left
its family and the longer its been at
the pet store the more risk you have of getting an emotional cripple.
If you see any
sign of lack of vigor in the animal, run
away fast. If you see any sign of cough, run away fast. If they say
it’s a little
bit sick but this free health guarantee
will cover you, RUN. If all that checks out okay, find out who the
veterinarian for
the shop is and call him/her and get any
information you can about your potential pup. And on a last note, if
you get a pet
from a pet store, it should be from a
reputable USDA breeder who is not breeding for show, but rather one who
is breeding for
healthy livestock (dogs in this case).
So, if the pet shop talks about the pup ’s championship or show lineage
on the
pedigree, the chances are you found a
pup from a show breeder who is on his/her last legs and there is no
telling what kind
of mess you will get from a down and out
show/conformation breeder. If you make it past that list, its probably
okay to get that pup.
Q. What about shelters and rescue
organizations?
A. Don’t put your trust in an
organization just because it has “shelter” or “rescue” in its name.
Nice sounding words
are often used to con people. The same
goes for words like charity and, non-profit. Don’t be conned,
investigate. The
shelter / rescue business can be a real
money maker. One of the more recent cons is the back alley pet store,
operated under
the guise of ‘rescue’. Many so called
rescues now operate like low rent
unregulated pet stores; they actually buy their pups
at dog auctions, but instead of selling
them out of a store front they sell the dogs out of “foster homes”
under the guise
of “adoption”. Usually the more
legitimate rescues/shelters will not stoop to that level but even they
are often willing
to import stray dogs from third world
countries to meet the high demand for smaller breed pups. At the same
time, many of
these organizations try to limit
business competition by attempting to convince people not to buy from
pet stores and/or
breeders. Follow this
link for more information.
Fortunately the import cases usually involve smaller apartment sized
dogs,
but large purebred dogs also make a nice
market because of the amount of money they can demand. Of course, this
does not mean
that ALL rescues or shelters are bad,
but you need to be careful that you don’t end up with a dangerous dog
or scammed. Just
remember your pet has value, if someone
can obtain your pet at no or low cost and have an outlet to resell it
(even at “no
profit” ) then there will always be
unscrupulous people seeking to take advantage.
Q. Fortunately, I have a good local
shelter, should I still be concerned?
A. Yes, be concerned. Just remember that
the adult dogs legitimately turned into shelters are there for a
reason. The
main reason is aggression and behavioral
problems. In fact 50% of the dogs turned into shelters for these
problems CAME FROM
SHELTERS. If you take an adult pet from
such a place make sure that they will give you IN WRITING a statement
that the dog
does not have behavioral or health
issues. If you are interested in the actual case studies and the
scientific information
follow this link for the abstract and a
link to the full text. Link Q.
How can I tell if my dog is getting the proper nutrition?
A. Look at the health of the coat, is it
shiny and clean?; but most importantly examine the dog’s waste (land
mines
if you will). Is the dog’s poop still a
soft, stinky, and sticky land mine ready to attach to the bottom of you
shoe after a
week or two in the yard? If so your dog
is not eating right. The poop should turn hard and white after a time
period and
disintegrate. It should not be some
ever-present non-destructible sticky plastic mush with a half-life of
12 years.
Q. What do you feed your dogs?
A. We feed our dogs and puppies a
commercially balanced food. If you are interested in a good source of
info of feeding
your dogs find the following book by DR.
Ian Billinghurst. “GROW YOUR PUPPIES WITH BONES - The BARF Programme
For Breeding
Healthy Dogs And Eliminating Skeletal
Disease.Here
Q. What about “Dew Claws”, should they be
removed?
A. Not removing the dewclaws is a BIG
fashion no no. However, if you are going to be a good steward to your
pet, you have
to often fight fashion, political
correctness and the same kind of so called “common sense” that once
said the world was flat,
to do what’s best for you dog. The truth
is that some dewclaws should be removed and some should be kept. It all
depends on
the viable structural nature of the
pup’s dewclaws. Some dewclaws hang like ripe grapes ready to fall off
the paw. Other
dewclaws are structural to the paw like
a thumb. Usually dewclaws on the front paws are structural, the dogs
use them to
scratch their faces and manipulate items
they are chewing on. Often they are webbed to the paw and assist in
swimming. Rear
dewclaws are often utterly useless and
represent a risk of being snagged on carpet or some such and being
ripped off. Provide
your dog with normal care and
maintenance and he will be quite thankful he has his front dewclaws.
Q. How do I train my dog?
A.  Once again we have hit
another politically correct fashion imbued subject. The simple answer
is that you need to
'properly' establish your leadership in
the dogs pack. Once this has been done your pet will want to be lead
and will want to
follow your instructions. Of course,
then the key becomes communicating your instructions in a way that is
understandable or
easily learned by the dog. Many people
claim one way works over another or that another way is morally
superior to another.
It can become confusing and people
defend their methods as if they were in a cult and everyone else was a
heretic. The real
answer can be found in one of Bruce
Lee’s sayings – use what works and discard the rest-. Here is what we
suggest. If you
want to understand how your dog thinks
and how play to with it and how to train it so that it does not turn
into a messed up,
confused, or dangerous animal check out
the following website http://www.leerburg.com. The site caters to
police dogs but
they offer very helpful insight and
information in regards to training all dogs. Another very useful site
is
http ://www.clickertraining.com. The
clicker training really provides a useful way to communicate with your
dog. The important
thing is to let your puppy be a puppy.
Clicker training is a great way to teach and play with your puppy.
However, as you
clicker train your pup you should also
be fully versed and aware of what is taught on the Leerburg website to
make sure your
not training or accidentally teaching
your dog to become a problem animal in the future. If you do these
things you should
have no problems.
Q. What is in the dogs best interest in
terms of breeding, at what age do I start?
A. Well once again a very touchy subject
full of so called experts who know in their heart what’s best for you,
your dog
and society as a whole and will try to
impose it on you no matter what the real truth. The answer for this
question will be
in terms of what’s best for the dog, not
for society, not for your social standing and not for your continued
membership in
any social circles. If you’re really
interested read the works and studies of Dr Ian Billinghurst. We
believe a female
should be bred at the on the 2nd heat,
assuming your dog’s first heat is a maiden heat and that the dog will
be at least a
year old at the time of the birth. If
your not going to bred the dog on this heat you should either “fix” her
or have the
cycles suppressed until you are ready to
breed. From some hormonal standpoints, once your dog has gone through a
heat cycle,
the dogs body will act as if it were
pregnant, regardless of whether or not there actual are any pups
present or not. Dogs
have these empty pregnancies every time
they are NOT bred. Not breeding a dog when its in heat can be very hard
on the dogs
reproductive system and immune system.
Picture always running your car in idle at max RPM with no load and
never driving it.
Not good. For more info see
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P =A&A=1224. There are
additional reasons to breed a
ridgeback early and that is because of
the hormonal issues related thyroid disorders. These disorders are much
more prevalent
in the breed than the typical Hip
Dysplasia hysteria (see http://www.offa .org ). If you're wishing to
avoid potential Hip
Dysplasia issues, there are indications
that it is best to breed the dog while she is still young and limber
with her first
heat. Some people do claim otherwise but
they don’t ever present scientific evidence to support their claims. In
short , for
the best health of your dog, if she is
in heat she should be bred, if you don’t want to breed her then fix her
or have her
cycles suppressed.
Q. When should I neuter my dog?
A. If you wish to do what is in the long
term best health interests of your dog, you should wait until the dog’s
hormones
have cycled at least once. There is
evidence to indicate that a dog’s immune system will not come into full
strength until all
the hormones have been expressed at
least once. For females this means, they should be neutered a month or
so after their
first heat. By waiting until after the
first heat, you are assured that the hormones have cycled. For males,
if you desire to
neuter them, it is best to wait until
they are at least 1.5 years old. Truth be known, a male is most likely
better off never
being neutered. Of course, that is not
an answer that will win you many friends within the socialist, “we know
what’s best
for you” crowd, but nonetheless an
unneutered male is a healthier dog. Recent studies on Rottweilers have
indicated that
neutering a dog before 1 year of age
increases the risk of osteosarcoma (bone cancer) by four times.
Supposedly, osteosarcoma is not prevalent in Ridgebacks. But
interestingly enough we have met several former ridgeback owners from
the Missouri area
whose dogs were neutered early and then
came down with osteosarcoma at a young age. This cluster of sarcomas
maybe an
indication of genetic issues with dogs
in the Midwest region. For all the above reasons, we strongly advise
people not to buy
neutered puppies and not to neuter
puppies before they are at least 1.5 years of age. If you would like to
read the study
linking early neutering to osteosarcoma
please follow this link.
Endogenous Gonadal Hormone Exposure and Bone Sarcoma Risk.
Another good article, that address the
neutering issue in simpler language may be found
here.
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